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Sir Cliff Richard: child abuse investigation - Jerome - 08-09-2014
And then of course there is the despicable industry of sex tourism. A colleague of mine went to Cuba a few years ago and he said he was appalled at the sight of middle-aged men (tourists) with young girls (15/16) at the breakfast table in the hotel.
Sir Cliff Richard: child abuse investigation - CRAZY-HORSE - 08-09-2014
that happens all through South East Asia also J-Man...indonesia,malaysia,vietnam,cambodia,thailand etc etc
Sir Cliff Richard: child abuse investigation - jazzboCR - 08-09-2014
Jerome Wrote:And then of course there is the despicable industry of sex tourism.
Let's make a strong distinction here--sex with children is wrong (and I only use that word for moral computations); sex with a non-consensual partner (not just molestation but any type of force) is wrong; sex between 2 fully consenting adults whatever the circumstances is none of my business and I suspect not much of anybody else's either. Nobody hates the child/forced sex trade more than those who travel for sex precisely because these distinctions are not made. We (yes, I said we) do not wish to get wrongfully or ignorantly tarred with that brush. If this puts me beyond the Pale with you--so be it.
Sir Cliff Richard: child abuse investigation - Jerome - 09-09-2014
Don't have a clue what you are trying to say. Moral computations?
Sir Cliff Richard: child abuse investigation - jazzboCR - 09-09-2014
Jerome Wrote:Don't have a clue what you are trying to say. Moral computations?
Too many people use "right" and "wrong" to mean correct /incorrect, valid/invalid or some such. Lazy thinkers/writers. They should be reserved and preserved for use in the morality dimension, not the factual. Feel free to star me in a "Convoluted Brain but He Presents a Great Face" operetta. Great fun.
Sir Cliff Richard: child abuse investigation - Music Head - 09-09-2014
jazzboCR Wrote:Too many people use "right" and "wrong" to mean correct /incorrect, valid/invalid or some such. Lazy thinkers/writers. They should be reserved and preserved for use in the morality dimension, not the factual. Feel free to star me in a "Convoluted Brain but He Presents a Great Face" operetta. Great fun.what the hell are you smoking?
Sir Cliff Richard: child abuse investigation - jazzboCR - 09-09-2014
Music Head Wrote:what the hell are you smoking?
What I'll tell you publicly is Pall Mall Red short-box...
Sir Cliff Richard: child abuse investigation - Jerome - 09-09-2014
And then of course, there's the pimps - the real slimeballs of the industry.
Sir Cliff Richard: child abuse investigation - Music Head - 09-09-2014
Jerome Wrote:And then of course, there's the pimps - the real slimeballs of the industry.come on man
they are just providing a service
:wink:
Sir Cliff Richard: child abuse investigation - jazzboCR - 09-09-2014
Music Head Wrote:come on man
they are just providing a service
:wink:
http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/127/transcript
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