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Why do you love Hip/hop/Rap? - exiled_13 - 13-09-2011

because the lyrical delivery of the thoughts and visions sometimes cannot be expressed any other way than over a sick beat


Why do you love Hip/hop/Rap? - DJquarterzip - 24-12-2014

Because it's such a good way to express yourself

Hey everyone im new and was just wondering if yall could give my track a listen and let me know what you think,
thanks a lot everyone
https://m.soundcloud.com/djquarterzip
*note it's a remix of Tuesday and a slight dis track


Why do you love Hip/hop/Rap? - jazzboCR - 24-12-2014

DJquarterzip Wrote:Because it's such a good way to express yourself

To whom? The already enraged-converted? And about what? My cat has no problem expressing herself verbally and otherwise; the great apes have reasonably sophisticated modes of expression; and somehow the human race struggled by for 15,000 years give or take without rap. What new, fresh purpose does it serve?
To all you rapster buckaroos--strap some of this on (This is not Gospel--it's sermons set to music by the Yoruba): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2ayt4AhlKU and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au-9nlCPYrg << These from the severely-oppressed gender of a people severely oppressed by Arabic Muslims...and still she sings life-affirming messages. How about SixPack ForSure? What did he sing about? Boo-hoo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW4VZ5J0fNQ << Interesting comments.


Why do you love Hip/hop/Rap? - Jerome - 08-06-2015

jasonalanjohnson Wrote:Its not like hiphop producers have some secret beat making machine or software that is hidden from producers of other genres. The difference is the repetitve nature of hiphop beats. Other genres do not repeat the same instrumental phrases as many times or for as long as hiphop. Thus, a rapper is required to maintain the listener's attention long enough for the subtle characteristics of the "beat" to sink in. Other genres, like R&B, often utilize the same types of beats. But with a style like R&B, the beat must change to follow changes in the melody. So the melody becomes the listeners attraction instead.

By "beat" I am not only refering to rhythm, but also chord progressions or comping. Hiphop beat makers often incorporate loops or samples that contain some sort of chord or are in a specific key. So repeating the same progression over and over by looping, forces the melody to stay rooted in the same key.

Modern hiphop has incorporated melodic "hooks" or choruses which are essetially just a section of R&B. But the key element that makes it hiphop is the continuously repeating beat. The beat is not better than the beats of other styles. It is just repeated enough times for you to recognize all of the subtle charcteristics. In fact, early hiphop djs might take an old soul record and repeat the same 4 measures of it over and over. A rapper then "spits" his or her lyrics over it and by the end of tune the average listener has finally absorbed the brilliance that was Al Green or Ray Charles in the first place.

By the way, I am not discounting what the rapper does. In fact, I like hiphop for the lyrics. This post is for those (most) who listen for the beats.

The difference is the repetitve nature of hiphop beats - this is what makes it boring
Thus, a rapper is required to maintain the listener's attention long enough for the subtle characteristics of the "beat" to sink in - there are no subtle characteristics - it's just the same beat copied and pasted so it means there are no real dynamics to the music. What you should be striving for is subtle VARIATION in the beat. That would make it more interesting.
Hiphop beat makers often incorporate loops or samples that contain some sort of chord or are in a specific key. So repeating the same progression over and over by looping, forces the melody to stay rooted in the same key. Most songs from all genres are rooted in the same key - it's just that hip hop producers generally do not know how to handle chord progressions beyond I and V or even modulation between keys.
Modern hiphop has incorporated melodic "hooks" or choruses which are essetially just a section of R&B.
Even medieval music contained hooks - they have been around for centuries.


Why do you love Hip/hop/Rap? - CRAZY-HORSE - 08-06-2015

i find Dr.Dre is very good with chord progression from what i hear in his music.....
sure he has the "beats", but he does use real instruments in his songs also, the "beats" just provide the backdrop to the track....

im not refering to Dre's own material, but the material he produces for other artists.