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Jamie Foxx - Best Night Of My Life - Music Head - 31-12-2010
You are correct again.
I should have left it alone after the broadbrush comment.
I did listen to the last Brother Ali album in it's entirety and really liked it.
Jamie Foxx - Best Night Of My Life - JazzyRandy - 31-12-2010
Music Head Wrote:I should have left it alone after the broadbrush comment.Not necessarily, MH. I don't want anyone to temper their thoughts. I just find it interesting how people can tiptoe around their dislike of other genres ("I'm not really a fan of jazz/classical/opera/calypso, but I respect the genre"), yet fire away with both guns when it comes to their dislike of contemporary R&B/Soul and Hip-Hop ("that music, if one can really call it that, is practically worthless because of .... fill-in-the-blank")
It almost seems like a badge of honor to see how thoroughly one can attack the genres. One person starts, then another adds their negative opinion, and that's about all it takes. Before long, people who visit forums supposedly devoted to "all music" discover "all music" really means Rock & Roll and maybe a few related genres such as Blues or Country. There's nothing wrong with that.
However, any forum that wants to build a complete well-rounded audience won't do itself any favors if every other thread in a genre's subforum includes negative opinions of the genre.
Just my two cents.
Jamie Foxx - Best Night Of My Life - Music Head - 31-12-2010
fair enough
I don't think you will find anyone more open to listening to different types of music than myself.
And that is what I believe gives me license to criticise what I don't like.
Jamie Foxx - Best Night Of My Life - JazzyRandy - 01-01-2011
Music Head Wrote:I don't think you will find anyone more open to listening to different types of music than myself.I think it is great you give a lot (and I mean a LOT) of albums of many genres one spin and initiate a thread on it. What I think does a disservice to the genre are your scores and comments.
And that is what I believe gives me license to criticise what I don't like.
You admit you're not a fan of Hip Hop and contemporary Soul/R&B, which means it's not likely you'll like many albums in those genres. And sure enough, your reviews bear that out with scores in the range of 1.2-1.5 which is a NO BUY by your scoring. To further emphasize your feelings, you'll say things like "just like nearly every contemporary R&B album, here's another one I didn't like," or "Out of 13 songs, 2 were worth hearing."
It's admirable that you keep listening to something you dislike so much, but after reading three pages of R&B/HipHop reviews, I have to wonder what's the point of it all when I can't find a positive (meaning WILL BUY) review?
EDIT: Sorry. Enough's enough. I guess I got carried away. Sometimes I get a little passionate about the music genres I love. Hey, it's your forum after all. Forget what I said and carry on, good man.
Jamie Foxx - Best Night Of My Life - pawdog - 01-01-2011
I'm new here so don't want to start off with criticism, but I don't like R&B and Hip Hop or Rap lumped into the same category. Rap although born of R&B is not a musician or singers medium where R&B is truly a musicians and singers medium. R&B does not degrade women or anyone else at least not to my experience. R&B has always glorified sex and love but usually in a clever and or artistic and adult manner. The Hip Hop or Rap influence on the younger generation has had a somewhat negative impact on modern commercial R&B. There is still a vital R&B world out there. It is not front and center though, you have to go looking for it.
A Few examples
Naturally 7
Anthony Hamilton
Calvin Richardson
Melanie Fiona
Robert Randolph & The Family Band
The Bamboos
India.Aire
Laura Izibor
Chrisette Michelle
Jazmine Sullivan
All young, current R&B artists with albums released in the last 2 years. Real singers and musicians that put the Jamie Foxxes of the world to shame.
Jamie Foxx - Best Night Of My Life - Tiggi - 01-01-2011
I think it's good to have the discussion.
Contemporary R&B, and Hip Hop don't really play much part in my life, so I'm a bit guilty of listening to "Rock & Roll and maybe a few related genres". The song content doesn't really speak to me in either genre, but this has little to do with the sub-cultural references.
My views are much the same with Metal. I still have albums in all these genres which I like lots, it's just that they're fairly few and far between.
Vive la difference, I say !!
Jamie Foxx - Best Night Of My Life - JazzyRandy - 01-01-2011
pawdog Wrote:Rap although born of R&B is not a musician or singers medium where R&B is truly a musicians and singers medium. R&B does not degrade women or anyone else at least not to my experience.Methinks you haven't really dug much into Hip Hop. One band, yes "band", that comes to mind is The Roots. Granted, there aren't many bands in Hip Hop, but there are more every year. And many of the larger acts utilize live bands for their concerts.
And by now, I think it's needless to point out that less than half of all Hip Hop albums produced degrade women or focus on other negative topics. Just like you said with contemporary Soul/R&B, you won't find a lot of the good stuff on the radio, but it is definitely out there ... for those interested.
I love the artists you listed in your R&B list! Great stuff there!
Jamie Foxx - Best Night Of My Life - pawdog - 01-01-2011
[quote=JazzyRandy]Methinks you haven't really dug much into Hip Hop. One band, yes "band", that comes to mind is The Roots. Granted, there aren't many bands in Hip Hop, but there are more every year. And many of the larger acts utilize live bands for their concerts.
You hit the nail on the head there I think I gave up on Hip Hop when Whodini left the scene.
The Roots seem to be a great example of what Hip Hop could be, The album with John Legend is a good R&B set, but when you start digging it seems you have to wade through Kanye and soulja boy and lil wayne and these people. You feel you could never wash yourself clean ever again. The positive thing is that Hip Hop is a lifestyle, is young, and will evolve. Who knows who and what we will hear from the genre over time.
Jamie Foxx - Best Night Of My Life - JazzyRandy - 02-01-2011
Man, Whodini was a great group. I saw them twice in the '80-early90s. Last year, they performed at a city arts festival and I happened to be there with my kids and another family. It was great to see the old men rock the mike again.
Yeah, there's some stuff on the radio that is geared for younger listeners and listeners without discerning musical taste. But that's the way it is with most radio stations that play contemporary music. If you listen to urban radio, you have to listen to Lloyd, Rihanna, Chris Brown, Keri Hilson, Jamie Foxx, etc. I stopped listening to radio for music a decade ago. I don't turn to radio to provide my Hip Hop, nor my R&B.
I don't think Hip Hop needs to evolve any more than any other genre needs to. There are mature Hip Hop acts, and acts for teenage listeners. There are mature R&B acts, and acts for teenage listeners. There are mature Rock & Roll acts, and acts for teenage listeners. As patrons, it's up to us to find those acts that suit our tastes. I've found more great Hip Hop than I have the time to listen to, as I have with any other genre. Trust me, Hip Hop has come of age.
Not that I'm saying any of this to convince you to listen to it. We all have our personal tastes. I just thought you should know Hip Hop in 2010 didn't begin with Soulja Boy and end with Kanye West.
Jamie Foxx - Best Night Of My Life - pawdog - 02-01-2011
Jazzy, I can appreciate what you are saying about radio having no value for music discovery. Or for me at least even listening. Of course I have a collection a big as any station could have, without the stuff I don't like. I do however listen sometimes to XM Radio that has targeted stations. It can be fun to just listen to someone else's playlist sometimes.
Have you checked out soulbounce.com? I found it a great place to discover little known artists in the R&B and adult Hip Hop area.