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'70s Pink Floyd - Tiggi - 05-09-2010 By the start of the 1970s, the band were becoming very successful, and were starting to flex their creative muscle following the loss of Syd Barrett. ATOM HEART MOTHER ![]() This 1970 release continued with their fondness for musical experimentation. The entire first side of the vinyl release is given over to the title track, which was written in collaboration with Scottish avant garde composer Ron Geesin, and includes some extensive orchestral passages. Side two contains shorter songs â one each from Waters, Wright, & Gilmour â and another experimental piece called Alanâs Psychedelic Breakfast which includes a recording of someone preparing & commenting on their breakfast. Gilmourâs gorgeous song Fat Old Sun is a side two highlight A clip of part of the title track, live from France: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhyM1h_fago&feature=related MEDDLE ![]() 1971 album Meddle was close to being the first where the sound theyâd been making in the 1960s had been replaced by the new band identity. Similarly to Atom Heart Mother, one side of the vinyl release was given over to shorter songs, whilst the second was devoted to the epic track Echoes. Throughout the album, Gilmour was contributing beautiful music, and his guitar was becoming increasingly central to the sound of the band. LIVE AT POMPEII ![]() The following year Pink Floyd filmed some performances of much of the Meddle material at a deserted amphitheatre at Pompeii in Italy. This saw a release in 1972, and various versions of this are still available on DVD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc4qi03QgOg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgvAwBDbuIo OBSCURED BY CLOUDS ![]() The next venture, also from 1972, was a soundtrack album for another of Barbet Schroederâs obscure art-house movies, La Vallée. Again, Iâve never seen the movie, and whilst the soundtrack wasnât well critically received, I think itâs a solid effort, and it points toward the bandâs more electronic sound which was to come. THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON ![]() For many, this is Pink Floydâs finest hour, and was destined to become one of the biggest selling records ever released. Itâs a âconceptâ album where the songs explore the pressures and concerns of the age: Love, stress, money, insanity, & death. Roger Waters by this time was writing all the lyrics, and was starting to exhibit a despotic control over the bandsâ output, which would wreak havoc in later years. The sound effects that the Floyd had dabbled in before now were plastered all over this record, and this in combination with Watersâ lyrics, and some absolutely sublime music were a winning combination. Unfortunately, the pressure to follow up this level of success was to present itâs own problems. The album also apparently synchronises eerily with the first forty minutes of the movie The Wizard of Oz. Iâve never actually tried it, but will at some stage Original film clip used by the band when playing Money on stage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_anbEJsr6s And a similar montage for Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPBYLDqUwQk WISH YOU WERE HERE ![]() 1975 saw the release of this album which is dominated by a two part song â Shine on You Crazy Diamond â which is a tribute to Syd Barrett. The rest of the album concerns Watersâ jaundiced view of the music industry. Large parts of the album are instrumental which usually meant that Gilmourâs creative juices were in full flow. Much of the record is beautiful, and reflective, but I think itâs an inevitably weak follow-up to DSOTM. However, the songs seem to be amongst the fansâ favourites, and many believe this to be their strongest album. These people are wrong. ANIMALS ![]() 1977 was the year of the Punk explosion in the UK, and Watersâ lyrics on Animals seemed to fit well with the cynicism & nihilism that were rife at the time. The albumâs five songs categorise capitalists, politicians, and censors as Dogs, Pigs, & Sheep, and the lyrics are bitter and vitriolic. For some reason this album isnât held in high regard by the bandâs fans, but I feel this is close to being the very essence of what the band generally, and waters specifically were trying to articulate. The music is darker and tougher than any of their previous output, and signposted a development that would continue until the inevitable split some years later. Video clip of Watersâ band playing Dogs some years later: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIsS9L9nqvY THE WALL ![]() During the Animals tour, the band were playing in Canada, and Waters was becoming increasingly frustrated that the audience werenât listening, but just kept baying for favourite songs. When a fan tried to climb on stage, Waters spat in his face. After the gig he was horrified at the degree of separation he felt was developing between band and audience. Thus the concept for The Wall was born. If you donât like angst, then this album wonât be for you, as Waters explored all the formative experiences in his life that had lead him to close himself off from those around him. His fatherâs death in the 2nd world war whilst he was still very young, his smothering mother, the UK school system, the women in his life, were all included as bricks in his personal wall. The album was performed as a theatrical show in which a physical wall was built across the front of the stage during the first half, leaving the band invisible for the second half barring occasional glimpses of Waters & Gilmour. The wall was used as a projection screen for some unsettling animations from satirical cartoonist Gerald Scarfe. The show was only performed a handful of times across four cities in The US & Europe, and was a financial disaster due to the cost of staging it. Interestingly, Rick Wright was fired from the band by Waters in the run up to the tour, but was retained as a hired session player, so he was the only band member to make any money from the tour. The concept was also produced as a movie, directed by Alan Parker and starring Bob Geldof. Comfortably Numb clip from the movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQWszrZHBPI By this stage, Watersâ need to control the band was causing serious strain, and it would only be a matter of time before they imploded⦠'70s Pink Floyd - Thraak - 05-09-2010 While I'm not really a fan of Pink Floyd, this is still very informative and interesting to read. I actually forgot about the 'Wish You Were Here' record which I do actually like quite a bit. Listened to Dark Side Of The Moon album but didn't really dig any of it apart from 'Money' which is alright. Most people think I'm pretty weird when I tell them I don't really like bands such as Pink Floyd, Queen, AC/DC, The Beatles & David Bowie but still I can always relate to people who have a certain passion for a particular artist, just like I have mines. Nice work Tiggi! '70s Pink Floyd - CRAZY-HORSE - 05-09-2010 mr.soul we have so much in common music wise its sort of uncanny,people think im weird cos im not 'into' pink floyd,queen,clapton,stones,bowie. agree with you regards to 'dark side of the moon,ive got it on cd,rarely listen to it. but i do love 'the wall' 'final cut' and what i consider their finest album 'division bell', nevertheless,an interesting read '70s Pink Floyd - Thraak - 06-09-2010 Ha, I guess it goes beyond obsession with Neil Young then! Actually, I havent listened to him for quite a while which is pretty shocking considering I used to listen to his 'Mirrorball' album every single day. It's easy to write off Eric Clapton but there are some real hidden gems in his solo catalogue; 'Backless' from '78 is a really nice album, 'Behind The Sun' from '85 (despite the horrible production) and live albums such as '24 Nights' & 'Unplugged' are outstanding. His best album, albeit a bit controversial in the circumstance, is a blues covers album from '94 called 'From The Cradle'. He sounds so raw on that album that he literally sounds like a totally different artist. Joy to hear. '70s Pink Floyd - CRAZY-HORSE - 06-09-2010 dont get me wrong mr.soul, clapton as with the others i mentioned above have had some very good songs. i saw him 'live' a couple of years ago, more out of curiosity than as a fan, he puts on a great show, his voice held up for 2hrs and his guitar playing is 2nd to none(wish i had 1% of his guitar skills). i like unplugged set, not enough of a fan to listen to an entire album front to back. i was refering to his recent 'live' set with stevie winwood, it is a bit flat in parts,good in the most part and some fantastic performances, i rate it 8/10 as a live album, which is very good.... i rate 'weld' 9/10 so its right up there as an all round set. getting back to clapton though, a 'best of' set would do me fine. 'layla'(any version) and 'tears in heaven' are two of the best songs ever written...in my opinion '70s Pink Floyd - CRAZY-HORSE - 06-09-2010 right, on to tiggi's review of pink floyd.....when you say people are 'wrong' for assuming 'wish you were here' is their best/strongest album, ibelieve it comes down to personal taste, as i wrote, i believe 'division bell' is their finest 66minutes on disc, a lot of people would disagree,mainly from its sales, but that album fits right for me, however if someone asked me to reccomend a starting point to pink floyds works i would suggest 'dark side of the moon', 'wish you were here' or 'the wall', purely from the point of view that they are easy accessable albums with a bit on them for everyone, i certainly wouldnt encourage them to purchase 'the final cut' (another of my floyd favourites) or 'division bell'. this is not a personal attack on you tiggi, just a reminder to maybe not put your opinions into reviews/overviews i still love you though!
'70s Pink Floyd - Music Head - 06-09-2010 Aw, that's sweet I love you too Tiggi.:hug: '70s Pink Floyd - CRAZY-HORSE - 06-09-2010 im not gay....not that theres anything wrong with that! '70s Pink Floyd - Music Head - 06-09-2010 CRAZY-HORSE Wrote:im not gay....not that theres anything wrong with that!me either I love you CRAZY-HORSE.:kiss: '70s Pink Floyd - CRAZY-HORSE - 06-09-2010 seriously! i think we should get back to the thread, what is the issue between waters and gilmore from a factual point of view, because i have two friends(i do, truly...and theyre not gay) one thinks waters is right and the other thinks gilmore is right in their dispute over pink floyd, so what exactly is the dispute between the pair of them? |