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Rock 'N' Roll Hall Of Fame Inductees 2013 - Music Head - 12-12-2012
from ap
Randy Newman's glad he didn't have to do anything drastic to get into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. The members of Rush are choosing to let bygones be bygones. And Quincy Jones, well, he's still mad.
For most of this year's inductees, inclusion was a long time coming.
"I'm very happy," the 69-year-old Newman said Monday from his home in Los Angeles. "I thought I'd have to die first, but I'm glad I'm around to see it."
Newman is joined in the 2013 class by the eclectic group of rockers Rush and Heart, rap group Public Enemy, "Queen of Disco" Donna Summer and bluesman Albert King. Jones and his friend Lou Adler will enter the hall as Ahmet Ertegun Award winners for their contributions to rock beyond performance.
They will be inducted into the hall of fame April 18 in Los Angeles. The ceremony will mark the end of a long wait for fans of five of those six acts, who've been eligible for entry for some time. Public Enemy was inducted on its first ballot appearance, swelling the ranks of hip-hop entries.
In many ways, the 2013 class balances the scales, though not nearly soon enough for some new members.
"Well, it's about time, man," Jones said late Monday night in an interview from his home in Los Angeles. "But I promise you I'm not sitting around worrying about it."
Summer, who passed away at age 63 in May, gains entry after six years as a nominee. King, a deep influence on Jimi Hendrix and Stevie Ray Vaughn who died in 1992, now takes his place along all the other legendary blues guitarists in the hall.
Rush, one of the most-played staples of classic rock radio, gained entry following its first appearance on the ballot. But the Canadian trio became eligible in 1998 and was repeatedly left off the list, to the great consternation of its legion of fans who cried bias against prog rock. Heart also waited a decade to make it on the ballot, gaining entry during its second appearance.
After years of disappointment, then disinterest, Rush's Alex Lifeson said the band now feels "wonderful" about its entry into the hall and is especially happy for its followers.
"First of all it's all water under the bridge and it was a very tiny bridge," the 59-year-old guitarist said in a phone interview from his home in Toronto. "I think our fans are more upset than we were because they feel a real bond to this band and it's been an important part of their lives in some form, and to be snubbed was snubbing them at the same time. ... Perhaps there were times when I thought if this ever happens I'm not going to bother going, or who cares or whatever, but at the end of the day positive karma is an important thing and this is an important thing to a lot of our fans and people we know."
Jones was less forgiving of the long wait he had. The 79-year-old entertainment icon's fingerprints are all over the hall of fame. He pops up often at key moments in rock 'n' roll history and was even Ray Charles' presenter during the soul singer's induction at the inaugural 1986 ceremony. He never expected to wait so long for his own entry.
"I was pissed off about it at first because I saw how it was going down and who was going in and who wasn't," Jones said with a deep laugh. "But I'm used to it, man. I've been around a long time, and I know how it works, you know. It's still an honor, man."
The 2013 class also continues the process of opening the hall of fame's doors a little bit wider.
In many cases, the delayed entry of this year's inductees had to do with a debate among its membership over the hall of fame's direction. The rock 'n' roll family sits under a big tent, but just how big it should be has been a matter of debate for the Cleveland, Ohio, institution.
The class may signal a new direction.
"That is an eclectic group," Newman said. "Well that's nice. It seems like they're broadening what they think rock 'n' roll is. That's good. There's no point being doctrinaire about music. ... People get awful strict. It's a hell of a thing to get strict about, isn't it?"
There was clearly no debate among the hall's membership about Public Enemy, which gained membership on its 25th anniversary.
The openly militant, always angry group helped elevate and define nascent rap in the 1980s and '90s. MC Chuck D said the group's induction is about more than simple membership.
"It's a great piece of news for the genre and our intention was to spread the light that our music is as legitimate as any other music," Chuck D said as the group traveled through Wyoming on tour Monday. " ... So this is significant to be alongside Grandmaster Flash and The Furious Five, Run DMC and the Beastie Boys and just to be able to say this accomplishment, we don't think it's solely due to us."
Lifeson hopes the hall's membership keeps up with the trend.
"Maybe it should be the Music Hall of Fame and not so much the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame," Lifeson said. "But maybe it all is rock 'n' roll. It started as a little seed and grew into this great big tree with a lot of branches. That's why it's so sad the whole progressive movement, bands like Yes and King Crimson, are not included in this. And I hope one day that they are because they deserve to be in there way before we do. They were huge influences on us and so many other bands that have done fantastic work over the years. I know Deep Purple were up for this as well. It's a little unfortunate that they didn't make it in because they were extremely influential. I hope there comes a time when these other artists and bands are included because they were equally as influential as any of the ones that are being inducted today."
Rock 'N' Roll Hall Of Fame Inductees 2013 - SteveO - 14-12-2012
I'm a Canadian as are Rush...I really only liked their live Exit Stage Left album ! Glad to see them inducted after over 35 years of music !
I don't have a problem with the rest of the inductees...well deserved !
Rock 'N' Roll Hall Of Fame Inductees 2013 - CherieLuamboYampanyaStar - 15-12-2012
What is it with Quincy Jones. He seems far too bitter these days.
Rock 'N' Roll Hall Of Fame Inductees 2013 - Nick Dilley - 16-12-2012
'Bout damn time for Rush!
..hey! wait.... Cherie, you are from Shakopee?! I am from West of Minneapolis (not currently residing there though)! Good to see another Minnesotan on here, ay!
Anyway...RUSH. And I agree with what Lifeson said about Deep Purple and Yes. I can see an argument against King Crimson, but damn, if the main criteria is artistry or influence (which it SHOULD be), then they deserve induction as well.
Anyway, interesting group. Huzzah!
Rock 'N' Roll Hall Of Fame Inductees 2013 - Jerome - 16-12-2012
Rubbish like Public Enemy before Yes, King Crimson & Deep Purple!! Give me a break - the RnR Hall of Fame has turned into a circus of 'celebrities' and is ignoring the musicians who made a real contribution to music. Next we'll have a one hit wonder X-Factor contestant (who wrote his autobiography at age 14) being inducted. Close it down - it's no longer relevant.
Rock 'N' Roll Hall Of Fame Inductees 2013 - CRAZY-HORSE - 16-12-2012
yeh i agree Jerome...its irrelevant now...
when Music Head and I went there in 2011, there was a 'rap/hip hop' section and what did it contain?...
crap like Eminem's bandana, his nike shoes, Dr.Dre's mic from his MC days...bollocks IMO
The Beatle section was probably the best IMO...all the original Sgt.Peppers outfits, the glasses Lennon wore the day he was shot, hand written song lyrics, etc etc....great to see that memorabillia IMO and a few of Georges guitars from back in the day...awesome stuff!
Rock 'N' Roll Hall Of Fame Inductees 2013 - Nick Dilley - 16-12-2012
Jerome Wrote:Rubbish like Public Enemy before Yes, King Crimson & Deep Purple!! Give me a break - the RnR Hall of Fame has turned into a circus of 'celebrities' and is ignoring the musicians who made a real contribution to music. Next we'll have a one hit wonder X-Factor contestant (who wrote his autobiography at age 14) being inducted. Close it down - it's no longer relevant.+1, Jerome. :nod:
Rock 'N' Roll Hall Of Fame Inductees 2013 - Music Head - 16-12-2012
never mind the bollocks
it's the New York Dolls
Rock 'N' Roll Hall Of Fame Inductees 2013 - Jerome - 16-12-2012
Nick Dilley Wrote:+1, Jerome. :nod:
Would still like to hear your stuff sometime. I am busy doing some vocal tracks that I wrote many moons ago with an outfit in LA called Studio Pros. Quite curious to see how this pans out. First time I am letting someone else do all the production.