Mainstream.

[Oceansoul]

I find you will almost always have people who will dislike what you like and some will be vocal about it. Sometimes music I enjoy gets insulted too. If I allow negativity displayed to sway my opinions then I'll likely wind up enjoying nothing in music anymore since some people will hate something else I like too. One kind of music will not please everyone's ears so enjoy what you like.

I realize you're referring to those who think that since they listen to obscure stuff that it makes them better than you and you're a pleb for enjoying popular music. I wouldn't waste my energy on their music opinions tbh. Obscure doesn't mean it's good any more than mainstream does, IMO. Music debates are fine, but still music is rather subjective.

[Music Head]

what every one is saying right in some respect
anyway
it works both ways
there are plenty of people who listen to nothing but pop
and will not explore anything else
especially these techno/house or rap people
that is all they know because they grew up playing computer games
or being exposed to filthy language on a daily basis

[bob_32_116]

When a radio announcer says "This next song comes with a language warning", I nearly always tune out. Not because I mind hearing swear words, but because it almost invariably indicates it's going to be rap, most of which I can't stand.

I noticed something odd recently. You would think that punk rock lyrics would be full of swear words. It's supposed to be offensive and rebellious, right? Yet when you think about most of the classic punk bands, there is surprisingly little swearing. Even the Sex Pistols. I perused the lyrics of their album some time ago; there is one song that contains lots of swear words, but I don't think any of the other songs had any swearing at all. I have the album Sandinista! by The Clash. In the entire 36 songs, there is only one example of a naughty word; the F-word appears once, it's spoken quite casually and light-heartedly, it's right at the end of the song during the fade-out and you could easily not notice it was there.

In the entire collection of music that I own, there are probably only about half a dozen examples of a word appearing that's currently considered a swear word. That's not because I consciously avoid them, it's because they just don't seem to occur in the kind of music I tend to buy.

[ackerqueen]

Guys, I didn't say you should listen to more popular music. You listen to what you like and what fits your taste in music. Some people like rock, some punk, somme classical music and that's okay. But taste in music is personal. Liking/disliking something based on what others think about it isn't personal. Like firstly see what others said, then go automatically against it, and then tell people that do listen to pop that they're basic and don't know what REAL music is. That's why I said they're trying too hard to be ''one of a kind'' and different, because you know, the rest of the world is soo 0815.

[CRAZY-HORSE]

what do you think of Sandinista bob?

[bob_32_116]

what do you think of Sandinista bob?

I enjoy it.

Obviously, with 36 songs, and being the kind of band they were, you are going to get some duds. There is certainly some stuff that qualifies as "filler", but there is so much music here that it hardly matters. I generally put the two discs in (it was originally three vinyl discs, but it fits on two CDs), and just play on shuffle. I probably skip Mensforth Hill quite often.... but when you have songs as good as The Magnificent Seven, Something About England, Somebody Got Murdered, The Call Up, and Charlie Don't Surf, the missteps are easy to forgive.

[bob_32_116]

@ackerqueen:

I get what you're saying - but I still don't understand why you said it on this board in the manner you did, unless your accusation of "firstly see what others said, then go automatically against it, and then tell people that do listen to pop that they're basic and don't know what REAL music is." is directed specifically at person or persons on this board. in which case, I don't know who it would be, because although we all have our musical likes and dislikes, as far as I can tell people here form their opinions based on what they have heard, not on what other people tell them. That's certainly how I operate, anyway.

And what is "0815" about?

[Oceansoul]

I hear what you're saying too, but there isn't much you can do about it other than share your point of view with the people you're talking about and move on. I think it's a bit shallow to assume what someone's depth is based on their taste in music and I don't think there is an arbiter of music either.

If someone is different and unique, well I don't think they would need to prove it based on the music they like and judge people who like mainstream music in order to be so. They would be themselves and think for themselves by forming their own opinions. -shrug-

[CRAZY-HORSE]

I enjoy it.

Obviously, with 36 songs, and being the kind of band they were, you are going to get some duds. There is certainly some stuff that qualifies as "filler", but there is so much music here that it hardly matters. I generally put the two discs in (it was originally three vinyl discs, but it fits on two CDs), and just play on shuffle. I probably skip Mensforth Hill quite often.... but when you have songs as good as The Magnificent Seven, Something About England, Somebody Got Murdered, The Call Up, and Charlie Don't Surf, the missteps are easy to forgive.

I was curious because as a big fan of The Clash I didn't like that album, well, I liked about half of it, hated the other half, I didn't think there was anything outstanding on it...it was very experimental IMO...
it had the usual reggae,pop,funk, sounds they had been heading towards since their second album but musically I think they lost the plot,
lyrically though, they still had it.
they did improve slightly with their next effort "combat rock" and should have left it there, and in fact they probably did because only two of them appeared on the ill fated "cut the crap" which was absolutely terrible IMO and was basically a Joe Strummer solo album.

ther two best albums IMO were their debut self titled set and the double vinyl album London Calling.

[CRAZY-HORSE]

also bob_32, did you ever hear any of the Big Audio Dynamite albums?

if so, which ones?

if not, they might be worth a listen as they are/were an extension of the funky/reggae/dub sounds Mick Jones was making whist with The Clash...
he was also a part of Gorillaz with Damon Albarn (blur) for a while...

I never listened to any of Joe Strummer's solo material because The Clash material ie: the final album, Cut The Crap, was crap , well, beyond crap IMO,
seems like he needed Jones' creative input with The Clash to bring out the best of him,
but I could be wrong, his solo material may have been ok, I just never bothered with it.