Electronic music - it is "not real"

[herr x]

So true hopscotch!

What some people might still not know, is also as of recording proceedure today, computers is the most important equipment. As well as Bon jovi,Kiss,Oasis,Beyonce,Celine Dion etc uses computers. With todays technique EVERYTHING is recorded into a computers and afterwards EDITED in the same. So when the drummer of i.e. Oasis is totally ON beat his whole recording,except for lets say 3 places, they wont re-record his whole take, but they will in the computer EDIT and correct his play as it SHOULD have been. Also if he missed one snaredrum, they will just automatically ADD one snare in the computer. Same as volume...length etc. This they do now with EVERY instrument and vocals, all in the search of the perfect recording. Madonna is slightly off tune in a recording, no problem, they fix it in the computer...Same proceedure as above mention methods of Kraftwerk+....

Will also add that some of the most famous synthesizer players have high education in music-schools. Ryuichi Sakamoto,of Yellow Magic Orchestra (also famous filmcomposer) is even a professor in electric music.

pop on boys and girls

[Drealm]

My parents always complained about Video Game music because it's not "Real instruments". It always frustrated me that they closed their mind to beautiful music just because it's computerized music.

On my side, electronic music have always been normal and really enjoyable, being video game music, dance, techno or just electronic in style, like The Prodigy who is my favorite band in the style.

[JonG]

THe composer doesn't necessarily contribute to the track in each instrument or sound manually, but ultimately is responsible for constructing a sound piece, which undoubtedly takes musical talent, knowledge, and application of discipline.

Thanks for the reply. I especially like the above point that you made. Another analogy can be made to album producers. They do much the same thing in the studio. Which is why electronic musicians are often referred to as "producers". After re-reading my last two sentences I realize this is very obvious. But maybe it isn't to some.

[herr x]

In the beginning of the 80s these discussions really started, when i.e. Depeche Mode became a success and had all their drums and some sounds played from a tape recorder while playing live. Many rock artists said they hated artifical music and computers and synthesizers. I remember Johnny Marr,guitarist from The Smiths, said he really HATED synthesizers. Some years later he started a very electronic band called ELECTRONIC (:biggrin1 with Bernard Sumner of New Order(and involving PetShopBoys,Karl Bartos from Kraftwerk etc). And today many rockband uses Synhesizers. (well..back in the 70s both Alice Cooper and The Sweet did!:wink:. David Bowies album LOW is one of the groundbreaking albums which sound has influenced the latter pioneers of electronic music. Japan, Ultravox, Duran Duran,Kraftwerk etc etc)

The people who still today is not open for synthetic sounds i guess is really from the old classical 70s rock school?.
Cheers

[divine.god.template]

I like the ability to create music that doesn't fit into a genre, it really pushes the envelop of creativity in my opinion and challenges new thoughts and ways of doing things. Progressive.

[hopscotch]

yellow magic orchestra is an amazing group, dunno if ur familiar with RATATAT but they took alot of melodies and hooks from YMO, totally ahead of their time

[herr x]

hi hopscotch...
Ratatat? never heard of....You got a link?...They are from where?
I know a swedish band used to be called Ratata...their first album was very electronic and synthpop orientated....back in 1982.

YMO...For those who dont know about them...
Here is a link to one of their most famous songs...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk6o4GWFIV8

One of the guys,Ryuichi Sakamoto has made filmmusic for loads of movies....Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence, The sheltering sky, The last emperor.Snake Eyes,Little Buddha,Wild palms..etc...

[hopscotch]

heres a wiki on ratatat: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratatat

and heres one of their best songs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zTkrPNNpkc

if that shit doesnt make you start grooving you are dead. their self titled debut is just a masterpiece thru and thru , sure to make you the cool kid at any party. well 5 years ago at least

[herr x]

thx for the links. Interesting sound. Groovy,with electronic flavours on the drums and bass, and layers of guitarrs on top. I checked out a few songs on the youtube. Some Junior Boys in there too

[Music Head]

if that shit doesnt make you start grooving you are dead.