27-08-2010, 10:47
My take on what you have said
I find this a strange one to answer because there are tautologous statements in the things that you say,
I guess I have the advantage of having lived through the Beatles period and although not that old at the time, I know quite a bit about what was going on at the time and have researched the period extensively.
I can't say that I'' change your opinions but I might be able to put them in context.
Lets start at Sgt Pepper,
The important point here is to look at 1966 and what was then the current state of Popular music,
The 50's started the Western attempts to take Rock and Roll and make it suitable for a Western audience.................Elvis , took the main stream black music , dressed it up in a whiteman's way and sold the naked idea of sex and music.................................Johnny Cash and others took pure gospal, country and some ideas of folk music and made his mark.
Buddy Holly and others showed that a simple guy with a guitar could write his own songs and make then popular.
However, society was frightened : Luckly for them Elvis was restrained in the Army , Buddy died, Johhny was invoved in his life struggles and as we all know
The Day the Music Died....................................................
Bob Dylan did continue on ..................
The Beatles came into this situation and tried to mold themselves into the nice simple way that music worked but they were not that kind.
They did command huge audiences and started the ides of large rock concerts and up to a point they created a new way of going on.
There main change was as trail blazers or innovators and as you acknowledge , there were very influential in the studio.
Sgt was never meant to be anything more than a 12 inch piece of plastic with a set of songs and and a fancy cover.........................
THe fact was that in 1967 the world was looking for a sign...................and the youth of he world was ready to accept it from these four boys and that is what they did....................
However, it WAS of 1967 .....................It encapsulates 1967 and was never going to extend any further
So that's all to look for...........................
An examination of the history of that time will put it into context..................
The fact that we are on a forum in 2010 talking about it says something ................but it will not change what it is .
Abbey Road and Let it Be
Let it Be was recorded just after The White Album and represents a half hearted project that never came to fruition................If you look at the books about the Beatles you can see it is atime of great disharmony within the band and the film and album reflect that.
Tee Event here of significance is the attempt of The Beatles to play together gain live without studio help.
Abbey Road :The last album by the Beatles and their attempt to leave something better to be remembered by rather than " A Sad and Tatty Cardboard Tombstone" that was the disharmony of Abbey Road.................
A bit of research into the time and a insight into the time will put them into context but I guess it is always personal taste that is the deciding factor.:biggrin:
I find this a strange one to answer because there are tautologous statements in the things that you say,
I guess I have the advantage of having lived through the Beatles period and although not that old at the time, I know quite a bit about what was going on at the time and have researched the period extensively.
I can't say that I'' change your opinions but I might be able to put them in context.
Lets start at Sgt Pepper,
The important point here is to look at 1966 and what was then the current state of Popular music,
The 50's started the Western attempts to take Rock and Roll and make it suitable for a Western audience.................Elvis , took the main stream black music , dressed it up in a whiteman's way and sold the naked idea of sex and music.................................Johnny Cash and others took pure gospal, country and some ideas of folk music and made his mark.
Buddy Holly and others showed that a simple guy with a guitar could write his own songs and make then popular.
However, society was frightened : Luckly for them Elvis was restrained in the Army , Buddy died, Johhny was invoved in his life struggles and as we all know
The Day the Music Died....................................................
Bob Dylan did continue on ..................
The Beatles came into this situation and tried to mold themselves into the nice simple way that music worked but they were not that kind.
They did command huge audiences and started the ides of large rock concerts and up to a point they created a new way of going on.
There main change was as trail blazers or innovators and as you acknowledge , there were very influential in the studio.
Sgt was never meant to be anything more than a 12 inch piece of plastic with a set of songs and and a fancy cover.........................
THe fact was that in 1967 the world was looking for a sign...................and the youth of he world was ready to accept it from these four boys and that is what they did....................
However, it WAS of 1967 .....................It encapsulates 1967 and was never going to extend any further
So that's all to look for...........................
An examination of the history of that time will put it into context..................
The fact that we are on a forum in 2010 talking about it says something ................but it will not change what it is .
Abbey Road and Let it Be
Let it Be was recorded just after The White Album and represents a half hearted project that never came to fruition................If you look at the books about the Beatles you can see it is atime of great disharmony within the band and the film and album reflect that.
Tee Event here of significance is the attempt of The Beatles to play together gain live without studio help.
Abbey Road :The last album by the Beatles and their attempt to leave something better to be remembered by rather than " A Sad and Tatty Cardboard Tombstone" that was the disharmony of Abbey Road.................
A bit of research into the time and a insight into the time will put them into context but I guess it is always personal taste that is the deciding factor.:biggrin:
Nice to be able to go back to trust and friendship!!!!!!!!!
It's a mixed up sensation this being alive
Oh! it wears a man down into the ground
It's the strangest elation
I can't describe it
Oh it leaves a man weary
It makes a man frown..............................Chris Simpson ( "Mixed Up Sensations" 1975 Martin's Cafe )
It's a mixed up sensation this being alive
Oh! it wears a man down into the ground
It's the strangest elation
I can't describe it
Oh it leaves a man weary
It makes a man frown..............................Chris Simpson ( "Mixed Up Sensations" 1975 Martin's Cafe )