21-07-2013, 13:16
Excellent sir ! I totally respect your viewpoint mate ! However I truly believe with or without Martin the Lennon & McCartney dynamo would have left its' mark on rock music history regardless! They were a lot more than craftsmen of catchy 2 minute pop songs! Those two minute (actually for the most part...over three minutes..lol) pop songs were and still are complex songs...four fingered chords, etc. The very early stuff like Love Me Do, I Wanna Hold Your Hand, She Loves You . Please Please Me,I Saw Her Standing There were raw pop rock that no one had ever heard before. Remember Crazy that I am an old geezer and I experienced the Beatles from their inception and lived with their music from 11 to 17 years old and beyond! I do not expect a yungin' like you to be as gaga over the Beatles as I am ...lol...I admire you for your comments and also for your passion for Neil Young and Crowded House among others....two artists that do not have a multitude of boring songs like many of today's artists!
CRAZY-HORSE Wrote:another thought SteveO....
yes, of course all bands had "producers" but you will find they were standard "rock/pop" producers who were set in their ways as how to produce those bands...
The Beatles producer, George Martin, was different, all he had ever produced was classical musicians and comedy records, thus he was thrown in the deep end with rock and roll, so he was learning as he went along also, he also has experience with these other genres and techniques that werent entrenched in rock/pop, thus he had the ability to make John and Paul think outside the square of simple rock/pop music...and it worked well, as they were responsive to his suggestions and also asked questions like "we want to do this,how do we do it?" so i guess they inspired eachother along the road to what they did,
the above comment is not meant to be disrespectful to John and Paul as they were fine craftsmen of the 2minute pop song and Paul continues to be so to this day, but GM opened their ears and eyes to other possibilities, and of course they opened his also...
they worked brilliantly together IMO, a great union of minds which John,Paul and later George took through to their solo material, Geroge Martin must have had a huge impact on Paul because he ventured out into classical and operatic material later also,starting with "the family way" soundtrack in 1966, and as we know, returned to classical and opera in a big way during the 1990s...
again, dont missunderstand or miss-interperate what i have written, i am not criticising The Beatles in any way, they were young and eager and George helped motivate them to move in other avenues of music...!
The ultimate connection is between a performer and its' audience!