What is the meaning of the term " INDIE " music ?

[SteveO]

I am not so sure that just lofi groups make albums that way anymore and I don't think the big corporate (overused term) record companies have a lot of say or control over the artist these days...there's too much competiton and too many bands !They have no choice but to let the music speak for itself!!!! Who as an executive in a record company would even attempt to change the music of say - Adele ?

All boy band control or all girl band control perhaps but not control over talented and creative artists...I don't buy it !!! I'll use Pink Floyd again as an example....EMI had diddly squat influence or say on what they recorded and released !!!!

Think it means music that was made with whatever equipment was available. i.e. no access to high-tech studios etc. etc. Some of the best albums were made this way. Jackson Browne's 'Running on Empty' springs to mind, some of which was recorded on a bus and various Holiday Inn hotel rooms around the States. Fantastic album too.

[bjgeiger]

I think it is just made crap to try to hook poor little unknowing people. I am working to a list for you. Should have done in a little while.

[mtthwibrahim]

I assume your familiar with the big names (Pixies, Sonic Youth, Dinosaur Jr, Pavement, Guided by Voices, etc), but if your looking for more obcure indie, a few good albums are Game Theory's "Lolita Nation" or the Fiery Furnaces's "Blueberry Boat"

Can you great learned members please suggest to me some good Indie artists or groups, please ?

[bjgeiger]

Beirut
Beirut is an indie-folk/lo-fi psychedelic/gypsy rock band helmed by one man: Zach Condon, who delves deep into traditional roots music from Eastern Europe and the Balkans as well as the mariachi of his native Albuquerque, New Mexico.
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-mqhkuOF7s"]Elephant Gun

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Iron and Wine
Lo-fi tapes of hushed acoustic indie rock go together with Miami like (tanning) oil and (salt) water, spring break and sobriety, Florida governor Jeb Bush and a problem-free day at the polls. See, what we're saying is they seem kind of incongruous. But Mr. Samuel Beam, aka Iron & Wine, was living in Miami crafting just such beguiling home recordings when Jonathan Poneman of Sub Pop "discovered" him via an indie magazine in Seattle. Boy With A Coin

The War On Drugs
The War on Drugs is an American indie rock band from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Band member Adam Granduciel (born Adam Granofsky in Dover, Massachusetts) moved from Oakland, California to Philadelphia in 2003, where he met Kurt Vile and began playing music with him. They began playing as The War on Drugs in 2005. Coming Through

Best Coast
The best coast is the West Coast according to frontwoman Bethany Cosentino of this L.A.-based, retro-loving, sun-worshiping lo-fi pop group. That carefree California vibe is all over Crazy for You, the acclaimed debut she and multi-instrumentalist Bobb Bruno released in 2010. Cosentino's lyrics revolve around beach-bummin', summer lovin' and getting high; her vocals recall '90s alt femme fatales like Liz Phair and Courtney Love, but with more stoney, boy-crazy wistfulness than gritty girl-power angst. Former Vivian Girl drummer Ali Koehler joined the duo full time shortly after the album's release. Crazy For You


Neutral Milk Hotel
For all their experimental detours and garnish, Neutral Milk Hotel's songs display, at their core, great songwriting in the traditional sense, like the late-career Beatles and Beach Boys. Emotionally evocative melodies and lovely vocals move through songs with memorable grace. [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iipO9Tvk1EI">Oh]Oh[/url] Comely

Animal Collective
Animal Collective is an avant pop band fusing indie rock, noise, electronica and "Friends"-era Beach Boys. [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXfwc0RDHBQ"]Did You See the Words
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Beach House
Beach House is a duo from Baltimore that plays dreamy, pretty indie pop. [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFxdDE0k1_Q"]Gila
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Grizzly Bear
Grizzly Bear is a Brooklyn quartet working at the intersection of underground folk and euphoric, psychedelic pop. Knife


Pavement
Though never as huge as some thought they'd become, Pavement were still the darlings of the '90s Indie Rock underground. [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnrM4UjaQmY"]Stereo
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Guided By Voices
Prolific indie rock stalwarts whose love of brash, Who-like melodies and lo-fi aesthetics have made them heroes to the kids. Bulldog Skin


The Mountain Goats
While Darnielle has worked with countless musicians over the years, The Mountain Goats is solely his project. [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe6DE9BXWeY"]Going to Georgia

[/URL]Black Lips
The Black Lips describe their sound as a combination of blues, rock, soul, country and punk that they call "flower punk." Bad Kids


tUnE-yArDs
Garbus' first album, BiRd-BrAiNs, was recorded using a handheld voice recorder and was released on recycled cassette tape. Bizness


Kurt Vile
Vile, early in his career, also served time in the Philly band The War on Drugs. Smoke Ring For My Halo


The Brian Jonestown Massacre
This important indie psyche band has been punching each other onstage and generally causing chaos since the early 1990s. Dawn


The Dodos
The Dodos are a duo -- guitarist, songwriter and singer Meric Long and drummer Logan Kroeber. Black Night


Unknown Mortal Orchestra
Play appealingly lighthearted psych rock. [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TXtnMj-G-c"]Nerve Damage
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The Pains of Being Pure at Heart
If you like the lo-fi indie pop of the Vaselines and early Primal Scream, you'll love the Pains of Being Pure at Heart. [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTDQZfFCrQk"]Higher Than the Stars
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DOM
Dom (he won't reveal his last name, so it's just Dom, like Cher) is the leader of the band. [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrcLdY1sxAY"]Living In America
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Smith Westerns
Smith Westerns are an indie rock band from Chicago, Illinois. Their musical influences include David Bowie, Marc Bolan, T. Rex and Brit Pop.
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1hDnJqCrY0"]Smile
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Neon Indian
His debut album, Psychic Chasms, was a highlight of 2009's so-called chillwave boom. Fallout


Midlake
Midlake is an American rock band from Denton, Texas. [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmxyZtrYx0E"]Winter Dies
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Wavves
Wavves (born Nathan Williams) makes lo-fi noise pop that's loud, catchy and ... loud. King of the Beach

[SteveO]

Matt !

Thanks for the reccos my friend !

I assume your familiar with the big names (Pixies, Sonic Youth, Dinosaur Jr, Pavement, Guided by Voices, etc), but if your looking for more obcure indie, a few good albums are Game Theory's "Lolita Nation" or the Fiery Furnaces's "Blueberry Boat"

[SteveO]

Wow ! What an impressive list, bj !!!! The only groups I am familiar with are Neutral Milk Hotel and Black Lips. I am going to have days of enjoyment with your list...thanks for taking the time to compile this list...I appreciate it !!!

Beirut
Beirut is an indie-folk/lo-fi psychedelic/gypsy rock band helmed by one man: Zach Condon, who delves deep into traditional roots music from Eastern Europe and the Balkans as well as the mariachi of his native Albuquerque, New Mexico.
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-mqhkuOF7s"]Elephant Gun

[/URL]
Iron and Wine
Lo-fi tapes of hushed acoustic indie rock go together with Miami like (tanning) oil and (salt) water, spring break and sobriety, Florida governor Jeb Bush and a problem-free day at the polls. See, what we're saying is they seem kind of incongruous. But Mr. Samuel Beam, aka Iron & Wine, was living in Miami crafting just such beguiling home recordings when Jonathan Poneman of Sub Pop "discovered" him via an indie magazine in Seattle. Boy With A Coin

The War On Drugs
The War on Drugs is an American indie rock band from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Band member Adam Granduciel (born Adam Granofsky in Dover, Massachusetts) moved from Oakland, California to Philadelphia in 2003, where he met Kurt Vile and began playing music with him. They began playing as The War on Drugs in 2005. Coming Through

Best Coast
The best coast is the West Coast according to frontwoman Bethany Cosentino of this L.A.-based, retro-loving, sun-worshiping lo-fi pop group. That carefree California vibe is all over Crazy for You, the acclaimed debut she and multi-instrumentalist Bobb Bruno released in 2010. Cosentino's lyrics revolve around beach-bummin', summer lovin' and getting high; her vocals recall '90s alt femme fatales like Liz Phair and Courtney Love, but with more stoney, boy-crazy wistfulness than gritty girl-power angst. Former Vivian Girl drummer Ali Koehler joined the duo full time shortly after the album's release. Crazy For You


Neutral Milk Hotel
For all their experimental detours and garnish, Neutral Milk Hotel's songs display, at their core, great songwriting in the traditional sense, like the late-career Beatles and Beach Boys. Emotionally evocative melodies and lovely vocals move through songs with memorable grace. [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iipO9Tvk1EI">Oh]Oh[/url] Comely

Animal Collective
Animal Collective is an avant pop band fusing indie rock, noise, electronica and "Friends"-era Beach Boys. [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXfwc0RDHBQ"]Did You See the Words
[/URL]

Beach House
Beach House is a duo from Baltimore that plays dreamy, pretty indie pop. [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFxdDE0k1_Q"]Gila
[/URL]
Grizzly Bear
Grizzly Bear is a Brooklyn quartet working at the intersection of underground folk and euphoric, psychedelic pop. Knife


Pavement
Though never as huge as some thought they'd become, Pavement were still the darlings of the '90s Indie Rock underground. [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnrM4UjaQmY"]Stereo
[/URL]
Guided By Voices
Prolific indie rock stalwarts whose love of brash, Who-like melodies and lo-fi aesthetics have made them heroes to the kids. Bulldog Skin


The Mountain Goats
While Darnielle has worked with countless musicians over the years, The Mountain Goats is solely his project. [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe6DE9BXWeY"]Going to Georgia

[/URL]Black Lips
The Black Lips describe their sound as a combination of blues, rock, soul, country and punk that they call "flower punk." Bad Kids


tUnE-yArDs
Garbus' first album, BiRd-BrAiNs, was recorded using a handheld voice recorder and was released on recycled cassette tape. Bizness


Kurt Vile
Vile, early in his career, also served time in the Philly band The War on Drugs. Smoke Ring For My Halo


The Brian Jonestown Massacre
This important indie psyche band has been punching each other onstage and generally causing chaos since the early 1990s. Dawn


The Dodos
The Dodos are a duo -- guitarist, songwriter and singer Meric Long and drummer Logan Kroeber. Black Night


Unknown Mortal Orchestra
Play appealingly lighthearted psych rock. [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TXtnMj-G-c"]Nerve Damage
[/URL]

The Pains of Being Pure at Heart
If you like the lo-fi indie pop of the Vaselines and early Primal Scream, you'll love the Pains of Being Pure at Heart. [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTDQZfFCrQk"]Higher Than the Stars
[/URL]

DOM
Dom (he won't reveal his last name, so it's just Dom, like Cher) is the leader of the band. [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrcLdY1sxAY"]Living In America
[/URL]

Smith Westerns
Smith Westerns are an indie rock band from Chicago, Illinois. Their musical influences include David Bowie, Marc Bolan, T. Rex and Brit Pop.
[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1hDnJqCrY0"]Smile
[/URL]

Neon Indian
His debut album, Psychic Chasms, was a highlight of 2009's so-called chillwave boom. Fallout


Midlake
Midlake is an American rock band from Denton, Texas. [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmxyZtrYx0E"]Winter Dies
[/URL]

Wavves
Wavves (born Nathan Williams) makes lo-fi noise pop that's loud, catchy and ... loud. King of the Beach

[SteveO]

Matt,

If you have more suggestions for obscure "indie" then please by all means send them along ! with thanks, SteveO.

I assume your familiar with the big names (Pixies, Sonic Youth, Dinosaur Jr, Pavement, Guided by Voices, etc), but if your looking for more obcure indie, a few good albums are Game Theory's "Lolita Nation" or the Fiery Furnaces's "Blueberry Boat"

[TraceNspace]

IN CLOSING WHAT THE HECK DOES INDIE MEAN OR IS IT DUMB AND NONSENSICAL ???????If this is true it's just another example of made up stuoid genres, right CH ????[/QUOTE]

That's what I think too!

[CRAZY-HORSE]

yes, like SteveO said...thanks for the list BJ(unfortunate initials...would you prefer to be known as something else?) LOL

and i will get through your list ove the next week or so mate!!

[Tiggi]

By the way, as a slight detour, where did the name Pink Floyd come from....Floyd Pinkerton ????

It was derived from the names of two of Syd Barret's favourite Blues artists; Pink Anderson, and Floyd Council.