Stravinsky vs Bartok vs Hindermith

[zmd]

Stravinsky, Hindemith and Bartók. What are the similarities and differences in their approaches to and uses of musical forms? Why do they approach form the way they do?

[Jerome]

Don't have a clue but would like to be enlightened.

[Tiggi]

Sounds like a music homework, or exam question to me...

[gryphon]

Sounds like one of those compare and contract questions they used to set at A level!!!!!!!!!!!

[SteveO]

Welcome aboard MD , ZMD ! I noticed this is your first post !

I am very familiar with Igor Stravinsky having heard Rite of Spring, The Firebird, Petrushka (ballet music) as well as Movements for Piano and Orchestra and L'histoire du Soldat Suite.

I have also heard his opera The Rake's Progress with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra....which definitely is not for everyone !!!!

I find his music intriguing to say the least and "off the beaten path" ......the reason why I enjoy it.

Bluebeard's Castle, an opera by Bela Bartok is all I am familiar wrt Bartok. I used to be quite the opera buff years ago when I was searching for "new music'' for myself !

I also enjoy Arnold Schoenberg , the inventor of twelve tone music which in some cases I can detect in Stravinsky !

I believe I have listened to Paul Hindemith somewhere along the way as I have an interest in the non conformist composer in both personality/morales/beliefs as well as compositional structure.

These master composers are resposible for much of the new music we hear today such as John Cage,Philip Glass, Steve Reich, Steve Roach, etc... unfortunately I don't listen to a whole lot of classical music these days as I seemed to have let it go by the wayside for some reason..... possibly due to a fairly low profile that classical music has ????

Now I'll probably start listening to it again since you've rekindled my interest !!!!! .. lol

I do listen to two British composers from time to time - old master - Henry Purcell and a fairly modern one - Benjamin Britten.

[Jerome]

Welcome aboard MD , ZMD ! I noticed this is your first post !I am very familiar with Igor Stravinsky having heard Rite of Spring, The Firebird, Petrushka (ballet music) as well as Movements for Piano and Orchestra and L'histoire du Soldat Suite. I have also heard his opera The Rake's Progress with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra....which definitely is not for everyone !!!! I find his music intriguing to say the least and "off the beaten path" ......the reason why I enjoy it.Bluebeard's Castle, an opera by Bela Bartok is all I am familiar wrt Bartok. I used to be quite the opera buff years ago when I was searching for "new music'' for myself ! I also enjoy Arnold Schoenberg , the inventor of twelve tone music which in some cases I can detect in Stravinsky !I believe I have listened to Paul Hindemith somewhere along the way as I have an interest in the non conformist composer in both personality/morales/beliefs as well as compositional structure.These master composers are resposible for much of the new music we hear today such as John Cage,Philip Glass, Steve Reich, Steve Roach, etc... unfortunately I don't listen to a whole lot of classical music these days as I seemed to have let it go by the wayside for some reason..... possibly due to a fairly low profile that classical music has ????Now I'll probably start listening to it again since you've rekindled my interest !!!!! .. lolI do listen to two British composers from time to time - old master - Henry Purcell and a fairly modern one - Benjamin Britten.

I'm impressed with your knowledge of classical music.

[SteveO]

And I'm impressed with your knowledge of modern instrumental music !

I'm impressed with your knowledge of classical music.

[Leon]

Stravinsky, Hindemith and Bartók. What are the similarities and differences in their approaches to and uses of musical forms? Why do they approach form the way they do?

All three composers wrote about their use of forms and their reasons for doing so, so that would be a good place to start. Stravinsky's thoughts (largely ghostwritten, but he still took responsibility for them) are most succinctly summarized in his Poetics of Music. For Hindemith, I would suggest A Composer's World, though that book is retrospective and sometimes contains instances of Hindemith trying to rewrite his own history. For Bartok, I would suggest his essay "The Influence of Peasant Music on Modern Music" and, more generally, his collected essays edited by Benjamin Suchoff.

You might also want to research "neoclassicism" and "Gebrauchsmusik."

[Music Head]

I'm impressed with your knowledge of classical music.

I'm impressed that you guys are impressed with each others impression of your fields of expertise.
Now that's impressive!

[CRAZY-HORSE]

I'm impressed that you guys are impressed with each others impression of your fields of expertise.
Now that's impressive!

damn it ! you beat me to the punch MH!!!!!!