Is rap considered music?

[CRAZY-HORSE]

Both Bob Dylan and Eminem will never make it on the first round of American Idol. There are some tracks where Eminem sings in the chorus, but he is no Josh Groban. By the way, everyone in American Idol sounds the same. Bob Dylan has a unique voice, so he will not win American Idol.

i agree....LOL.!

theres plenty of successful singers,who, if they listened to the experts would have given up before they began...

Elvis Presley...couldnt even win 'county fair' competitions back in the day.

Neil Young.....rejected by Warner when Buffalo Springfield split,Warner preferred to keep Stephen Stills signed to the label, and begrudgingly signed NY to their offshoot label Reprise Records,stating "his whiney voice is grating and irritating,he'll never make it,but we'll give him a go becuase of Stills insistance"

Beatles.........rejected by every major label in the UK, eventually taken onboard by Parlaphone Records as a last resort.

Mamas and The Papas....rejected by every label in NY, had to go to California to make a start

Glen Frey......rejected by Geffen Records until he could come back with a band,because they said "he'll never cut it as a singer on his own", a week later he came back with what became Eagles and the rest is history there.

i have no time for those Idol type shows, as half those old singers would not get past the first round if they entered.
the problem with those shows,as far as i see it, is that the producers want "instant success" not growth in an artist, thats probably why a lot of singers nowadays probably wont be around in ten,twenty,thirty,forty,fifty years time like your McCartney's,Jagger's,Elton's,Daltry's etc.

and another thing...
you read bio's of people like Beatles etc...they have interesting stories of their formative years in Cavern,Hamburg etc right?!
what are these young Idol/X-Factor singers going to write in their autobio's in twenty years time..."oh yeh, i started off with an audition on tv"...no history there, no 'paying dues' etc...
instant success is superficial and short lived which is a shame for the artists in question because the rubbish pile is the only place they'll end up, the only ones who win in the end are the TV networks, and people like Simon Cowell.

thats my rant for the day, now, back to the music...LOL